> Make no mistake: this was an extraordinary attack in terms of planning, timing & execution

#1 2024-03-26 18:23:00

Multiple intel sources: Baltimore bridge collapse was an “absolutely brilliant strategic attack” on US critical infrastructure - most likely cyber - & our intel agencies know it. In information warfare terms, they just divided the US along the Mason Dixon line exactly like the Civil War.

Second busiest strategic roadway in the nation for hazardous material now down for 4-5 years - which is how long they say it will take to recover. Bridge was built specifically to move hazardous material - fuel, diesel, propane gas, nitrogen, highly flammable materials, chemicals and oversized cargo that cannot fit in the tunnels - that supply chain now crippled.

Make no mistake: this was an extraordinary attack in terms of planning, timing & execution.

The two critical components on that bridge are the two load-bearing pylons on each end, closest to the shore. They are bigger, thicker and deeper than anything else. These are the anchor points and they knew that hitting either one one of them would be a fatal wound to the integrity of the bridge.

Half a mile of bridge went in the river - likely you will have to build a new one. Also caused so much damage to the structural integrity of the bottom concrete part that you cannot see & won’t know until they take the wreckage apart. Structural destruction likely absolute.

Attack perfectly targeted.

“They have figured out how to bring us down. As long as you stay away from the teeth of the US military, you can pick the US apart. We are arrogant and ignorant - lethal combination. Obama said they would fundamentally change America and they did. We are in a free-fall ride on a roller coaster right now - no brakes - just picking up speed.”

The footage shows the cargo ship never got in the approach lane in the channel. You have to be in the channel before you get into that turn. Location was precise/deliberate: chose a bend in the river where you have to slow down and commit yourself - once you are committed in that area there is not enough room to maneuver.

Should have had a harbor pilot to pilot the boat. You are not supposed to traverse any obstacles without the harbor pilot.

They chose a full moon so they would have maximum tidal shift - rise and fall. Brisk flow in that river on a normal day & have had a lot of rain recently so water was already moving along at a good pace.

Hit it with enough kinetic energy to knock the load-bearing pylon out from under the highway - which fatally weakens the span and then 50 percent of the bridge fell into the water.

All these factors when you look at it - this is how you teach people how to do this type of attack and there are so few people left in the system who know this. We have a Junior varsity team on the field.

Tremendous navigational obstruction. Huge logistical nightmare to clean this up. Number of dead is tragic but not the whole measure of the attack.

That kind-of bridge constantly under repair - always at night because there is so much traffic and they cannot obstruct that during the day. So concern is for repair guys who were on foot (out of their vehicles) working who may now be in the water - 48 degrees at most at this time of year.

When you choke off Baltimore you have cut the main north-south hazardous corridor (I95) in half. Now has to go around the city - or go somewhere else.

To move some of that cargo through the tunnel you may be able to get a permit but those are slow to get and require an escort system that is expensive and has to be done at night.

For every $100 dollars that goes into the city, $12 comes from shipping. Believe this will cripple the city of Baltimore at a time when they do not have the resources to recover.

#2 2024-03-26 18:26:16

Dindo.

#3 2024-03-26 18:37:13

The bridge was hacked.

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/stat … 6038391153

#4 2024-03-26 18:56:02

Lara Logan has fuqing lost it.

#5 2024-03-26 19:32:54

Sockpuppet wrote:
Dindo.

I don't think so.
I bet it takes 3 to 5 years to clean the FSK carcass out of the water & build a new bridge.
The ports of Jacksonville & Savannah are going to become a lot busier.
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#6 2024-03-26 19:34:09

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I don't think so.
I bet it takes 3 to 5 years to clean the FSK carcass out of the water & build a new bridge.
The ports of Jacksonville & Savannah are going to become a lot busier.
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It took 5 years to build it starting in 1972, in a far less regulated world than we live in now.

#7 2024-03-26 19:45:55

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It took 5 years to build it starting in 1972, in a far less regulated world than we live in now.

With less corruption.
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#8 2024-03-26 19:55:41

It's like when they tried to blame the vaccine for the guy who was hit in the chest.

facepalm

#9 2024-03-26 20:09:49

Majick cyber attack steers unpowered container ship into bridge!!!
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Only Saint Putin can save us!
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#10 2024-03-26 20:24:07

Sockpuppet wrote:
Dindo.

Banner of unintended validation and verification!!
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#11 2024-03-26 20:26:36

Sockpuppet wrote:
Lara Logan has fuqing lost it.

So has McCavity.

#12 2024-03-26 20:47:25

Let's entertain this idea.

China wouldn't do this, it would hurt their trade with the US.

Russia certainly would do this. So is it feasible to sabotage power on a ship at precisely the right moment so it drifts into a bridge?

It would take precise timing and real-time awareness of the ship's location and access to the ship's systems.

Russia has spy satellites that could coordinate this in real time, so that part is feasible.

Are ship's systems accessible either via the internet or some other remote method? Probably, the shipping company probably monitors everything remotely.

It all seems possible. But it would be very difficult. I guess if the adversary keeps trying to do something like this for months or years, they may get lucky.

So was is just an unfortunate accident or and engineered crash? Hopefully the NTSB will figure it out

#13 2024-03-26 20:49:38

BTW, Stuxnet was an attack on a SCADA network.

Looks like Marine SCADA can control propulsion

https://www.vtscada.com/marine-systems-overview/

#14 2024-03-26 20:50:03

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Let's entertain this idea.

China wouldn't do this, it would hurt their trade with the US.

Russia certainly would do this. So is it feasible to sabotage power on a ship at precisely the right moment so it drifts into a bridge?

It would take precise timing and real-time awareness of the ship's location and access to the ship's systems.

Russia has spy satellites that could coordinate this in real time, so that part is feasible.

Are ship's systems accessible either via the internet or some other remote method? Probably, the shipping company probably monitors everything remotely.

It all seems possible. But it would be very difficult. I guess if the adversary keeps trying to do something like this for months or years, they may get lucky.

So was is just an unfortunate accident or and engineered crash? Hopefully the NTSB will figure it out

The most sane post you have ever made.

#15 2024-03-26 20:59:34

So if the adversary was able to send SCADA commands, why not just command the thrusters to ram the bridge?

Perhaps all they could do was interrupt power. Notice the power goes out, comes back on, goes out again. But that could just be a malfunction.

How often is there a total power failure on cargo ships from malfunction? Are there mechanical backups for the rudder-by-wire? Backup power for bow thrusters?

If an adversary figured out how to cause a cargo ship to crash into something, why just do it once? Why not hit as many ships as possible while the vulnerability exists?

So many questions.

#16 2024-03-26 21:30:16

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Let's entertain this idea.

China wouldn't do this, it would hurt their trade with the US.

Russia certainly would do this. So is it feasible to sabotage power on a ship at precisely the right moment so it drifts into a bridge?

It would take precise timing and real-time awareness of the ship's location and access to the ship's systems.

Russia has spy satellites that could coordinate this in real time, so that part is feasible.

Are ship's systems accessible either via the internet or some other remote method? Probably, the shipping company probably monitors everything remotely.

It all seems possible. But it would be very difficult. I guess if the adversary keeps trying to do something like this for months or years, they may get lucky.

So was is just an unfortunate accident or and engineered crash? Hopefully the NTSB will figure it out

Too complicated. Just blame the Pajeets piloting the ship.

#17 2024-03-26 21:31:28

Here's some planning for you: How long before prices increase due to 'muh bridge collapse?'

#18 2024-03-26 21:44:12

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Here's some planning for you: How long before prices increase due to 'muh bridge collapse?'

Rapidly in the Baltimore/DC area.

#19 2024-03-26 21:45:48

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Here's some planning for you: How long before prices increase due to 'muh bridge collapse?'

Railroad stocks... for freight rail hauling out of southeastern ports could be an interesting play.

We need a worse than usual hurricane season to screw up east coast shipping further.

#20 2024-03-26 21:47:20

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Rapidly in the Baltimore/DC area.

That 10 percent for Xiao Bai Din is going to be taken out of the locals hides.

What are the odds on harbor tunnels being increased post accident?

#21 2024-03-26 21:48:16

This might destabilize muh democracy
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What a clown.

#22 2024-03-26 21:49:11

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Rapidly in the Baltimore/DC area.

A lot of workers at the Baltimoron docks are about to get an extended furlough.

#23 2024-03-26 21:49:55

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What are the odds on harbor tunnel tolls being increased post accident?

FIXED
I can't type today.

#24 2024-03-26 21:51:37

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This might destabilize muh democracy
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What a clown.

It could provide more Trump voters. If you've been laid off & Pete Buttplug is doing for Baltimore what he did for East Palestine, expect change at the ballot box.

#25 2024-03-27 12:41:42

Liberals took it out as a monument to a white oppressor. The replacement bridge will be named for the author of the black national anthem. White people pay a double toll and coloreds ride for free.

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