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VP_Spiro_T_Cheney
#1 Yesterday 01:50:21

Golden Sacks estimates that the big AI companies need about $1 trillion in annual AI revenues just to break even

Their current combined run rate is about $70B a year.

No fuqing wonder the credit default swaps on their bonds are thru the roof.  Somebody is gonna get stuck bag-holding a huge sack of shyt.

https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/artic … 38833.html

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#2 Yesterday 01:58:58

Re: Golden Sacks estimates that the big AI companies need about $1 trillion in annual AI revenues just to break even

Please be foreign regional banks holding the bag.
Please be foreign regional banks holding the bag.
Please be foreign regional banks holding the bag.
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pray

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#3 Yesterday 02:56:41

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Please be foreign regional banks holding the bag.
Please be foreign regional banks holding the bag.
Please be foreign regional banks holding the bag.
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pray

I think the preferred ‘bagholders have been identified:


“If you believe Labor Secretary Sweetpea Chavez-DeRemer, American 401(k) accounts are about to get much better.

Thanks to President Trump’s “bold new vision of a new golden age for America,” Chavez-DeRemer wrote in the Wall Street Journal on March 30, her agency is taking steps to open these crucial retirement accounts to a raft of new investment options, such as cryptocurrencies and private equity funds.

Her goal, she wrote, is to “unwind regulatory overreach and litigation abuse that have stifled innovation.” Her instrument is a proposed regulation that in effect would provide a safe harbor for plan sponsors — that is, employers — to offer those options in their employees’ plans without risking lawsuits or government scrutiny over whether they’re sufficiently prudent for workers to choose.”

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/ … d-you-bite

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#4 Yesterday 03:25:06

Re: Golden Sacks estimates that the big AI companies need about $1 trillion in annual AI revenues just to break even

I am become your 401k.
       \
bankster

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SamplesBoi
#5 Yesterday 03:33:09

Re: Golden Sacks estimates that the big AI companies need about $1 trillion in annual AI revenues just to break even

If you don't believe in this stuff and have a 401K, you can change your allocation.  It only takes a few business days to go into effect.  Go ahead and put it all in cash or see if there is a fund with no AI exposure.

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#6 Yesterday 03:46:32

Re: Golden Sacks estimates that the big AI companies need about $1 trillion in annual AI revenues just to break even

SamplesBoi wrote:

If you don't believe in this stuff and have a 401K, you can change your allocation.  It only takes a few business days to go into effect.  Go ahead and put it all in cash or see if there is a fund with no AI exposure.

NO! Rule change. Gimmedats 401k. All your 401k are belong to us.
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bankster

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#7 Yesterday 03:49:31

Re: Golden Sacks estimates that the big AI companies need about $1 trillion in annual AI revenues just to break even

I always choose my targets carefully, and today was no different. A new housing development had just opened up on the south side of town, and I was eager to leave my mark. I entered the sales office, and the hostess eyed me with a friendly smile. Little did she know that within seconds I would be shytting my guts out into an nconnected toilet on the second floor of the "Wilmington" model. 2593 square feet. Very nice.

I swung open the front door, and bounded up the stairs. Spotting the bathroom, I entered and stood before the toilet. I lifted the lid, and
immediately saw the sign. "Toilet inoperable. Please use restroom downstairs." With a chuckle, stomped through the cardboard, and tore away
the remaining scraps. I spun around and sat down.
Have you ever noticed that model homes never have internal doors? Really. Next time you visit a model home, try to find the doors. There aren't any! This fact definately comes into play when you are naked from the waist down, grunting and groaning like mad over a dry porcelin bowl.

But I digress...

So there I was, sitting on the pot, letting my feces spill out like chocolate ice cream from a soft serve machine. Just as I leaned back and let out a long satisfied sigh, I heard the front door open. Two sets of footsteps, and...a child's voice. My ass puckered and immediately sliced off a rope of turd mid-poop. I looked between my thighs to survey my handiwork.
A messy set of brown coils topped off with a nice peak reaching halfway to the rim of the toilet. I stood up, and wiped my ass with the corner of the ivory colored curtains hanging from the window. I paused for a moment in reflection. Should I leave the lid up...or
down? I finally decided on 'up' just as I heard a creak at the bottom of the stairs. Passing each other on the way down, I gave the woman a knowing smile, realising full well that she would discover the masterpiece that I had prepared for her. Sometimes, I wish that I could see their faces at just that moment. That moment of rapture. Maybe someday, but not today. There are many other model homes to visit, and empty toilets to shyt in.

Until then, I am the Model Home Shytter

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#8 Yesterday 03:53:09

Re: Golden Sacks estimates that the big AI companies need about $1 trillion in annual AI revenues just to break even

This is why they're trying to ban the free open source AI models

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#9 Yesterday 04:16:14

Re: Golden Sacks estimates that the big AI companies need about $1 trillion in annual AI revenues just to break even

See $ORCL (Oracle) & Force whyte.

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#10 Yesterday 04:17:17

Re: Golden Sacks estimates that the big AI companies need about $1 trillion in annual AI revenues just to break even

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See $ORCL (Oracle) & Force whyte.

stupid regex - whyte$E

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#11 Yesterday 04:27:40

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#12 Yesterday 05:57:57

Re: Golden Sacks estimates that the big AI companies need about $1 trillion in annual AI revenues just to break even

nuke

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#13 Yesterday 08:04:28

Re: Golden Sacks estimates that the big AI companies need about $1 trillion in annual AI revenues just to break even

SamplesBoi wrote:

If you don't believe in this stuff and have a 401K, you can change your allocation.  It only takes a few business days to go into effect.  Go ahead and put it all in cash or see if there is a fund with no AI exposure.

Not that simple.  Its trillions in misalocated capital and the contagion will spread way beyond just the hyperscalers and their lenders.

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#14 Yesterday 09:14:37

Re: Golden Sacks estimates that the big AI companies need about $1 trillion in annual AI revenues just to break even

1 trillion in AI revenue, from only 2 companies

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#15 Yesterday 09:23:40

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Not that simple.  Its trillions in misalocated capital and the contagion will spread way beyond just the hyperscalers and their lenders.

Bury all your money in your backyard then, ImperialExecutive.

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#16 Yesterday 10:40:58

Re: Golden Sacks estimates that the big AI companies need about $1 trillion in annual AI revenues just to break even

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See $ORCL (Oracle) & Force whyte.

facepalm modfilth ruin everything

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#17 Yesterday 12:01:08

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Bury all your money in your backyard then, ImperialExecutive.

From Jew pipes, to Jew AI.

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#18 Yesterday 12:03:44

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Please be foreign regional banks holding the bag.
Please be foreign regional banks holding the bag.
Please be foreign regional banks holding the bag.
\
pray

I think I'm going to cumb!
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tard

AI Debt Boom Heads From Wall Street to Europe Despite Tech Angst

https://finance.yahoo.com/technology/ai … 42557.html

(Bloomberg) -- JPMorgan Chase & Co. and Goldman Sachs Group Inc. are among banks lining up to finance billions of dollars in European AI debt as the region races to close the gap with the US.

The Wall Street underwriters are vying for a leading role in financing Europe's push to reduce its reliance on overseas technology. Both have assembled specialist teams to pitch deals to data-center operators and investors.

"There hasn't been a great deal of issuance here but there has been intense investor focus," said Noah Roth, JPMorgan's London-based head of EMEA leveraged finance. "There's a lot of FOMO."

Investors may not have to miss out much longer. Anywhere from $5 billion to $10 billion of data-center bonds could reach European markets by the end of the year, with a much bigger wave expected in 2027, according to Goldman Sachs estimates.

By contrast, the US has already seen more than $350 billion in AI-related issuance so far this year, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. AI executives there are warning of catastrophic risks from their most advanced models and states including Texas and New York are restricting new data centers.

Europe, meanwhile, is worried about not building fast enough. European Central Bank President Christine Lagarde has warned that relying on US technology risks giving Europe's trading partners enormous leverage.

"Regardless of whether or not we have a European champion in AI, Europe will need to have data centers, for European security and for data sovereignty," said Giacomo Reali, a leveraged finance partner at Linklaters.

Closing the gap won't come cheap. Europe may need about $3 trillion through 2035 to fund cloud infrastructure, data centers and other critical technologies, according to Bloomberg Intelligence.

Until now, banks, project finance and securitizations were enough for Europe's smaller-scale projects. The next generation will require deeper pools of capital. Among them: Start Campus, a planned 1.2-gigawatt facility in Portugal.

Projects of that size will pave the way for a bigger role for both investment-grade and high-yield debt markets. AI-related debt represents about 5% of European high-yield issuance, versus 19% in the US, according to Dealogic and Goldman Sachs research.

Each new 100 to 200 megawatt center in Europe could translate to "$1 billion, $2 billion debt deals at a minimum," Miriam Wheeler, global head of leveraged finance at Goldman Sachs, said on the sidelines of her bank's leveraged finance conference in London. She estimates Europe's role in the global AI build-out could rise to as much as 25% from 10%.

"We think if you start seeing more of that mega capex come to Europe, then you'll start to see it financed in the 144A market, investment-grade and non-investment grade," she said.

The first European high-yield data-center deals are likely to borrow heavily from the US playbook. Cahill Gordon & Reindel partner Ariel Goldman expects issuers to take the "cleanest, easiest path" to establish a track record before more customized structures.

Before that can happen, a large amount of lender education will be needed to bring investors up to speed with the risks of committing to projects that have yet to be built. Data centers' heavy consumption of electricity and water is drawing greater scrutiny from lenders with ESG mandates. Even if investors don't want to be left behind in the AI wave, they aren't prepared to finance every project.

"The threshold and diligence we need to do is quite high," said Sid Chhabra, head of securitized credit, CLO management and euro high yield at RBC BlueBay.

European investors spent much of the summer doing their homework. In July, some made the hour-long trip from London to Slough to tour data centers owned by Equinix Inc. It was an unusual amount of effort for a £280 million ($377 million) bond deal.

The turnout said something about the scarcity of AI-related debt in Europe. Equinix's asset-backed securities offering is tiny compared with the trillions of dollars needed to finance the global build-out of artificial intelligence infrastructure.

But for the daytrippers to Slough, the data-center deal was an early opportunity to get in on the AI boom. Orders for Equinix's bonds ended up totalling over £510 million.

"We will see companies in the sector ultimately needing to raise billions from the market," said Ben Thompson, head of EMEA leveraged finance capital markets at JPMorgan. "We will see how big that number can be."

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#19 Yesterday 15:16:10

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https://youtu.be/1CbvhJO8Nfo

Tldr summary?

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#20 Yesterday 15:18:26

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Tldr summary?

over 37% of GPU's are exclusively used for generating tranny porn.
sad

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#21 Yesterday 15:29:14

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Tldr summary?

Ask Pelvic for a summary.

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#22 Yesterday 15:29:14

Re: Golden Sacks estimates that the big AI companies need about $1 trillion in annual AI revenues just to break even

Seems about right.
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SamplesBoi
#23 Yesterday 15:35:54

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NO! Rule change. Gimmedats 401k. All your 401k are belong to us.
       \
bankster

The rules today are the rules today.  If you believe in the substance of this thread you should be making your allocation changes now.  They will take effect Tuesday or Wednesday.

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SamplesBoi
#24 Yesterday 15:36:33

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Seems about right.
BadassKitteh.jpg

Regenerate with a glock and female hands please, red nail gloss.

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SamplesBoi
#25 Yesterday 15:37:39

Re: Golden Sacks estimates that the big AI companies need about $1 trillion in annual AI revenues just to break even

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