> Unpopular Liberal Opinion: I think Pretti is about 50% at fault.

You have far less than zero credibility. Like all asshole libfilth vermin.

The hostile enemy violent treasoncrat scumbag was 169% at fault. As are every last one of you open borders diversity advocate filth who made the mess leading to this entire situation.

Fuq you. The sooner you are all deservedly eradicated, the better off the nation will be.

Bagger Wise wrote:

No thank you.  But here's a hug.

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Bagger Wise wrote:

I'd say he was outright murdered if it weren't for him shouting "You're gonna have to kill me" (or shoot me - I forget which one) multiple times.  That changes the whole nature of this.

I have a very poor opinion of ICE but if they stopped me in the street, I'd comply.  If I were in a protest and they started attacking me, the last thing I would shout is "You're gonna have to kill me."  Especially if I were carry a concealed handgun.   When you are carrying, you have increased responsibility.  Encouraging LEOs to shoot you is the last thing you should be doing.

Note:  My stepfather who voted for Trump in 2016 but Harris in 2024 thinks I am wrong for this and thinks Pretti was 100% murdered.

Of course this is just based on what I have seen and know so far.  I could learn mroe later which changes my opinion.

I've read where people say that he was reaching in his pocket to put his cell phone away. His gun had been taken away at this point. If he was putting his cell phone away in his pocket it would be justified for the officers to shoot him. You don't wait for the person to pull his hand out to see if he has a gun. You just shoot him.

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Bagger Wise wrote:

I'd say he was outright murdered if it weren't for him shouting "You're gonna have to kill me" (or shoot me - I forget which one) multiple times.  That changes the whole nature of this.

I have a very poor opinion of ICE but if they stopped me in the street, I'd comply.  If I were in a protest and they started attacking me, the last thing I would shout is "You're gonna have to kill me."  Especially if I were carry a concealed handgun.   When you are carrying, you have increased responsibility.  Encouraging LEOs to shoot you is the last thing you should be doing.

Note:  My stepfather who voted for Trump in 2016 but Harris in 2024 thinks I am wrong for this and thinks Pretti was 100% murdered.

Of course this is just based on what I have seen and know so far.  I could learn mroe later which changes my opinion.

He was murdered for trying to render aid to someone.

There are no excused at all.

We can disagree and quibble about the percentages.

I have seen people disarmed dozens of times.

99.99% of the time, the armed person is simply told to keep his hands away from his weapon and the weapon is simply removed.

The mob was probably 50% responsible. Pretti likely 35% responsible. And B.P.'s stressed officers probably 15% responsible.

Plenis wrote:

No you do not, "just shoot him".  That's military, not policing. And you just called them police.

If'n I say "officer" it's the same as calling them "police"!
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I've read where people say that he was reaching in his pocket to put his cell phone away. His gun had been taken away at this point. If he was putting his cell phone away in his pocket it would be justified for the officers to shoot him. You don't wait for the person to pull his hand out to see if he has a gun. You just shoot him.

HE WAS REACHING FOR SKITTLES
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Tom Leykis wrote:

NOT ONE WORD FROM YOU IS BEING BELIEVED.

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He was rendering aid?      To who?
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To the lady that the SA had sprayed in the face with pepper spray and pushed to the ground.

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That is not a situation an armed citizen needs to jump into the middle of, as we can now see.    His actions and failed decision making resulted in his demise.

We can understand how rendering aid to a woman in distress would not seem like a situation where you’d want to get involved.

You, like all baggers, are not fully human.

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Remember when J6 rioters had guns, and Trump pardoned them?
Or when Kyle Rittenhouse came to a protest with a gun and shot and killed people - and got off scot free and is a hero to the GOP?
Or when armed MAGA men stormed the Michigan capitol, and MAGA cheered them on.

Why was is okay for them to bring guns to a protest, but not this guy?

scot free
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Dim witted apples to oranges comparison but very common in the low IQ minds of faggers.