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SpankyThe following items should be provided to every person in America free of charge if they need it.
Gaia Cries wrote:
OK. Do you think its a good idea to add 20 million more deficits to that pile?
It isn't a deficit as consumption of itemizable government services minus taxes paid is not the only value to consider.
There is net economic output, productivity gains, and many intangibles. This applies to everyone. Even whytes.
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SpankyRe: The following items should be provided to every person in America free of charge if they need it.
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And dont forget the tens of millions in capital expenses building new schools over the last 30 years for an expanding student population driven almost entirely by illegals.
There is no expanding school population. It doesn't exist.
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Re: The following items should be provided to every person in America free of charge if they need it.
Phillip_McCavity wrote:
I should also mention that schools are paid by property taxes, not income taxes. These are collected in rents.
So a family really does pay for the cost of education, although people without kids also pay for it.
Once we establish that those 2 kids cost $40k+ per year to educate it is clear it is not being paid by their $2k a month rent * 12 months even if 100% of their rent went to taxes and 100% of taxes went to schools. Just stop lying and making shyt up. And what illegal family only has 2 kids?
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SpankyRe: The following items should be provided to every person in America free of charge if they need it.
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Once we establish that those 2 kids cost $40k+ per year to educate it is clear it is not being paid by their $2k a month rent * 12 months even if 100% of their rent went to taxes and 100% of taxes went to schools. Just stop lying and making shyt up. And what illegal family only has 2 kids?
The Hispanic birth rate today is far lower than the whyte birth rate in the 1950s.
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Re: The following items should be provided to every person in America free of charge if they need it.
Iman wrote:
Why should I educate you?
You shouldn't:
- Food Stamps
- Welfare
- Housing
- Child Assistance
- Education
- Transportation
- Case Workers
I'm sure there's more.
All those services & pretty soon, you're at 68 large.
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Re: The following items should be provided to every person in America free of charge if they need it.
Spanky wrote:
40% of households have no net federal individual income tax liability.
https://taxpolicycenter.org/fiscal-fact … e-tax-2025
So, as I said, the vast majority of wage earners do not pay federal income taxes.
What makes you think that 40% heavily intersects the workers on the Venn diagram? I’d guess it is made up of retirees and welfare loosers. And prison populations.
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Re: The following items should be provided to every person in America free of charge if they need it.
Spanky wrote:
There is no expanding school population. It doesn't exist.
Probably not in Illinois. Go look at LA or Houston.
But if I google new Chicago schools I bet they have built more than 5 in the last 10 years at >$100M each.
Just because they claimed the old ones were worn out and contaminated by asbestos and lead.
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Phillip_McCavityRe: The following items should be provided to every person in America free of charge if they need it.
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Once we establish that those 2 kids cost $40k+ per year to educate it is clear it is not being paid by their $2k a month rent * 12 months even if 100% of their rent went to taxes and 100% of taxes went to schools. Just stop lying and making shyt up. And what illegal family only has 2 kids?
As I said before, and as Spanky also quite well explained, marginal costs for education are essentially nothing.
Education is paid for by all of us, just like roads and defense.
And we all reap the benefits of an educated populace.
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Re: The following items should be provided to every person in America free of charge if they need it.
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What makes you think that 40% heavily intersects the workers on the Venn diagram? I’d guess it is made up of retirees and welfare loosers. And prison populations.
No, it's wealthy people with tax shelters which bring them to net zero.
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Re: The following items should be provided to every person in America free of charge if they need it.
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No, it's wealthy people with tax shelters which bring them to net zero.
or I could be wrong
About 30% to 35% of American tax households owe no federal income tax, primarily because their incomes are too low to exceed the standard deduction, or they qualify for large credits (like the Earned Income or Child Tax Credit).The remaining non-payers are typically elderly individuals or low-income working families. However, experts emphasize that "paying no income tax" does not mean these groups pay zero taxes, as they still pay payroll taxes, state taxes, and local taxes.If you would like, I can:Detail the difference between federal income tax and payroll taxes.Break down how state and local taxes impact low-income households.Compare the tax burden across different income brackets.
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Re: The following items should be provided to every person in America free of charge if they need it.
I think every person or household should get credits for staple foods at any grocery store.
Milk, eggs, cheese, meats, sauces, soups, butter, flour, spices, sugar, salt, pepper, beans, and a selection of fruit and vegetables.
And in congested areas, they should have large food plazas with simple meals available 24/7.
Then in both venues side by side, you have fancier meals and a selection of premium foods and specialty items.
Then every venue that serves food, based on capacity, must have an available "wholesome" foods section for the hungry or strapped for cash, including fast food restaurants.
For instance, you can get a free peanut butter and jelly sandwich and a water by scanning your state-issued ID.
Individuals can have 3 "squares" a day.
Of course, there'd be a lot of graft and abuse, people taking the food to feed pets or farm animals or whatever. But eventually, the availability of food would make that meaningless.
Most likely, there would be a standardized vendor with color-coded meal types and drink options. Perhaps reconstituted dry meals.
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Re: The following items should be provided to every person in America free of charge if they need it.
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For instance, you can get a free peanut butter and jelly sandwich and a water by scanning your state-issued ID.
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So you need the mark of the beast to eat?
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Re: The following items should be provided to every person in America free of charge if they need it.
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So you need the mark of the beast to eat?
Necessary to stop waste and fraud.
Want your free meal in the United States? Show your ID.
Want to pick up your meal ration for the day or week? Show your chit motherfuqa!
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SpankyRe: The following items should be provided to every person in America free of charge if they need it.
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What makes you think that 40% heavily intersects the workers on the Venn diagram? I’d guess it is made up of retirees and welfare loosers. And prison populations.
40% of households covers about 80% of the population. It is common sense that the vast majority of workers are in the 80% instead of outside it.
Furthermore, if we look at income quintiles, about 87% of federal income taxes come from the top quintile. It is also common sense that the majority of workers are in the bottom four quintiles. In fact, the bottom three quintiles combined have a negative federal income tax rate of -0.3%.
You must know nothing about our federal income tax system if you don't know these basic facts about it. This is well-known information to anybody who has ever looked at tax data out of a basic curiosity.
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SpankyRe: The following items should be provided to every person in America free of charge if they need it.
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Probably not in Illinois. Go look at LA or Houston.
But if I google new Chicago schools I bet they have built more than 5 in the last 10 years at >$100M each.
Just because they claimed the old ones were worn out and contaminated by asbestos and lead.
In 2000, the total K-12 public school enrollment was 47.2M. In 2023 it was 49.4M. But, in 2000 the number represented 14.9% of the population where the latest numbers represent 14.7%.
I know it is painful when facts and data conflict with what you hear on hate radio and see on hate websites.
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SpankyRe: The following items should be provided to every person in America free of charge if they need it.
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Necessary to stop waste and fraud.
Want your free meal in the United States? Show your ID.
Want to pick up your meal ration for the day or week? Show your chit motherfuqa!
We already have the EBT system and there is almost no fraud or waste.
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HeekeeRe: The following items should be provided to every person in America free of charge if they need it.
Spanky is right 
Unfortunately human nature would never allow such a system to work
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Spanky wrote:
We already have the EBT system and there is almost no fraud or waste.
which is bound by vast bureaucracy to manage.
It's a philosophical shift: from "let's encourage the poor to make believe they have money", to “let’s make staple foods free to everyone the same".
The secondary purpose is to create a robust staple food provisioning channel that is independent of typical grocery channel variability.
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SockpuppetRe: The following items should be provided to every person in America free of charge if they need it.
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which is bound by vast bureaucracy to manage.
It's a philosophical shift: from "let's encourage the poor to make believe they have money", to “let’s make staple foods free to everyone the same".
The secondary purpose is to create a robust staple food provisioning channel that is independent of typical grocery channel variability.
I don’t disagree with your in general.
But your lies about fraud must be contradicted.
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ImanRe: The following items should be provided to every person in America free of charge if they need it.
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That is false. A person cannot get 68k a year anywhere.
To continue to make this claim you need to provide factual proof.
Google use it
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ImanRe: The following items should be provided to every person in America free of charge if they need it.
https://www.usa.gov/benefits Start here
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.,Re: The following items should be provided to every person in America free of charge if they need it.
Spanky wrote:
We already have the EBT system and there is almost no fraud or waste.
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